निर्वाचित चित्र उम्मीदवार वो चित्र (छवियाँ) हैं जिनके कॉमन्स पर सर्वोत्तम चित्रों में से एक होने के लिए समुदाय के लोग मतदान करेंगे। यह सूची उन उम्मीदवारों की है जो निर्वाचित चित्र हो सकते हैं। आज का चित्र निर्वाचित्र चित्रों में से चुनी हुई एक छवि होगी।
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Info Bluebells (Hyacinthoides non-scripta) - pretty park scene at the botanical garden. I looked up the origin of that odd "non-scripta" name. It's a mythology reference. When Hyacinthus was accidentally killed, a flower grew from his blood and Apollo's tears marked the letters AIAI on the petals. Basically this is saying "not the kind of hyacinth that has letters on it". all by — Rhododendritestalk | 13:29, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Info Jun Takahashi dress for Undercover, spring/summer 2024. Featured in the Metropolitan Museum of Art exhibition "Sleeping Beauties: Reawakening Fashion". A different version of this dress got some attention when it was worn to this year's Met Gala. all by — Rhododendritestalk | 13:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Sorry you didn't get feedback on the last one. Once in a while we'll see a photo that isn't quite up to anyone's standards for Featured Picture, but also isn't particularly bad enough to oppose. An all-black subject is very difficult to photograph, and while you've done a pretty good job here, the level of detail just isn't up to what people expect for birds at FPC. From looking at the ground, it looks like the focus might be just slightly past the bird. A smaller focus window and faster shutter might help. Some people might find the background a little off-putting, too (there's a lot of personal preference involved here). So in short I think you have a good photo that could be helpful to illustrate a common raven, but it's probably not going to work for Featured Picture. — Rhododendritestalk | 13:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The ceiling (ceiling/teto is what you see inside a building, and a roof/telhado is what you see from the outside) is not horizontal, it is leaning and it is higher on the right side than the left side. There is nothing the photographer can do about it; unless he brings in a building team and have them reconstructing the station. --Cart(talk)15:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question There seem to be quite a few problems with the detail; naturally maps are all about accurate detail. It needs consistency of use of Norwegian/English (e.g. Gata/Gate; use of Ceramist (a person) as opposed to Ceramics/Pottery). Accommodation should be Hotel. Huset Vart seems to be a shopping centre in a converted bicycle factory, not a science factory. Do Norwegians translate Vinmonopolet as Liquor Store; the American term? I've heard them using alcohol store or using vinmonopolet when speaking English. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note from a Scandi. These days the languages (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) spoken and written by Scandinavians contain a lot of English words and expressions, and most of us don't know the difference between pure American and British English. We learn and use a hodgepodge from what we pick up in media, films and tv shows, and try to adapt what we say so that people will understand the meaning rather than true translations. It's sort of the Scandi version of Pidgin English. Hence we use the real names of companies like 'Vinmonopolet' (in Sweden, Systembolaget has the same function) when speaking among foreign friends, but terms like 'Liquor Store' when describing it to the public in general. --Cart(talk)11:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever it should be called, the Vinmonopolet is nowhere near the shown location from 2022, so you'd never find it using this map. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed. --Basile Morin (talk) 07:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question Could you please add a description in English (even with Google Translate, native speakers will fix it if needed). Yann (talk) 14:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Question Could you please add a description in English (even with Google Translate, native speakers will fix it if needed). Yann (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I can only see slight grain when pixel peeping the 100 megapixel image, which I don't find distracting at all. Are you perhaps referring to the ripples reflecting the sky? dllu(t,c)05:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but per the header, only "[e]ditors whose accounts have at least 10 days and 50 edits can vote." Your account only has 24 edits as of 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC). --SHB2000 (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Pretty uninteresting light and strangely washed out colours on the building. The sharpness could also be better.--Ermell (talk) 13:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose The cloud obscuring parts of the mountain isn't visually appealing IMO. Also, the quality of the mountains isn't worthy of a FP, especially when the resolution and size are near 20 MB -- WildMouse76 (talk) 20:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Info Of this one? No. It was resting in a way that it was staying still for a long time. The previous nomination had a visible head, but it was on pavement, which is not its natural environment. grendel|khan18:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The rythme generated by the curved light rail is also visually much more interesting. In any case, the photo is misleading. Reviewers might think the picture displayed in the nomination will replace the other one with a link. Whereas it is the contrary -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Too tight crop, and the curved light rail playing with the curved façade has disappeared. Composition and rythme more interesting in the promoted version -- Basile Morin (talk) 23:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I know how aware it is to use these suits, manufacture one by hand with natural waste, use a perfume of wild plants but for some reason it is a magnet for mosquitoes. Internally its very heat, a plastic layer for isolate should be used the human smell of the outside --Wilfredor (talk) 16:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I never encountered this mosquito problem in Switzerland with the suit but it’s true it’s hot in the ghillie suit. Because of that I acquired another set of camouflage clothing for warm temperatures -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Indeed, unless it's a staged shot by usage of tripod and self-timer, the author's attribution cannot be correct as is. On the other hand, if the photo is staged and so the action depicted is not genuine, may it still be featured for our "People at work" gallery? --A.Savin09:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That gallery also include people going to or from work, preparing for work, or taking a break during work. Besides, if Giles really was in his working position in the photo, would we be able to spot him in it? ;-) --Cart(talk)09:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a bit more about the context of this photo : I installed the tripod and my old camera kept taking pictures every few seconds. Different pictures in different poses were taken. A bit before I was done, a group of small birds luckily perched themselves on branches on my right and didn’t seem to notice me thanks to the camouflage. I photographed them for a bit but then these energetic birds went further away. This moment gave the best picture (this one) as it was natural. After that I also tried a slightly different location just a few steps away to see if the background was better but in my opinion this shot was still the best. So it is true it was "staged" at beginning when the tripod was put on the ground and the goal was simply to document what a wildlife photographer in a ghillie suit looks like but it could be said that it technically wasn’t staged or at least less staged with this picture as I was really looking at the birds. Anyway I don’t know which gallery is most adequate, if you think "Standing people" is better you can move it there. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After having a look at the "People at work" gallery I think many of them could be considered as "staged" as well because they are clearly posing for the camera so I don't think it's a problem for that gallery but again if you prefer you can move to "Standing people" or to "Others" -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very true Cart. But actually this is a "work position" as well and it happens quite often because one difficult thing is finding a good spot so you first have to explore different areas looking for signs of the targeted animal presence (hair, footprints, droppings, etc.) and in that process you can find many other different animals so when you see/hear one (you often hear before seeing) you stop moving and look more carefully around. I photographed many mammals in that standing position and as long as they didn't see you move or that the wind isn't sending your smell in their direction you can stay undetected. And even when they see you, if you keep not moving they sometimes even walk in your direction (sometimes very close) intrigued by this weird tree or bush with a black hole and these are just moments when your adrenaline is very high and that you never forget -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know. I was mostly joking about that "pile of grass" same as Rhododendrites did. My ex was a hunter, although up here we rely more on blinds and hides than camo. Great shot anyway! --Cart(talk)12:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I used a tripod with my old camera and the author is correct. My main goal of that day was to search for a group of wolves that was seen multiple times in the previous weeks in the area and that attacked a group of cows. Unfortunately I didn’t see wolves that day but that’s just nature! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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InfoRelief, carved with the effigy of Ste Cécile represented with her zither, to the right of the portal of the Saint-Martin church. Oxelaëre (Nord, Fr). all by me -- Pierre André (talk)09:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, but something is off here. I think it's the bird's positioning. It's not facing the camera and we can't really make out it's physique. Had the bird faced the camera in a classic stance, I'd have supported this image. The composition and crop are not a problem if you're wondering. WolverineXI11:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Info The Finsteraarhorn is the highest mountain of the Bernese Alps, the ninth-highest mountain of the Alps, the most prominent peak of Switzerland and the third-most prominent peak in the Alps; the image shows the 1200 m high southwest face which lies in the canton of Valais; created by Carsten Steger - uploaded by Carsten Steger - nominated by Carsten Steger -- Carsten Steger (talk) 09:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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What do you mean by "too strong"? It is conventional to ensure that the verticals are vertical for architectural photos. To the extent it is even possible for this very old building, which has survived numerous earthquakes, so none of the verticals are actually perfect. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 15:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that the desire to make verticals vertical should not be an end in itself. I think it is much more important that the objects in the photo look natural as in real life and not resemble broken cardboard toys. -- Екатерина Борисова (talk) 04:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And in real life most buildings are in fact vertical, and we see them as such. This is hardly a good candidate for some sort of vertical vanishing point effect. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 04:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for your review. I guess you are talking of one of the two trees? They are the reason the chamois were there: close to them the snow is less deep and they can dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. The trees are thus part of the habitats of these chamois, which is one of the reasons why the gallery Animals in their habitat was chosen for this picture. Also, I actually personally think that they give a nice touch to the image with their soft colors illuminated by the sunset. Also both trees point to the subject and the chamois clearly stands out with its dark color in this snowy background with soft sunset illuminated colors. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support From the point of view of the chosen gallery, I think the composition is appropriate. In my opinion, the blurred elements in the foreground and background can be considered a compositional style. -- Radomianin (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review. I still personally think that the background tree is a nice echo of the foreground tree, giving the viewer a sense of what the foreground tree actually looks like while also beeing relevant to the chamois' environment. Giles Laurent (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still think that the chamois stands out way more than the background tree for multiple reasons : 1) the chamois is the clear subject in the middle of the frame ; 2) the chamois is wearing it's black winter coat which makes it stand out compared to the light-colored snow ; 3) the bokeh is cleary separating the subject from the background ; 4) the foreground tree creates perfect leading lines that point directly at the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 5) the snow horizon on the background on the left side creates another leading line to the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 6) the snow on the middleground of the image that goes from the bottom right of the picture to the center also creates another leading line pointing to the subject ; 7) finally, even the background tree is pointing right at the subject. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review. The gallery "animals in their habitats" was especially created to feature pictures where a step back was taken and where a wider view is presented. Per creator of this gallery : "It is so great to see the animals as part of photos of their habitat. So please, when you super-record the critters, do also take a step back and compose a few great photos where we can see a bit more of the places where they live". This image is exactly that, it allows to have a wider view that changes from the usual "mugshots" that we often see on animals here. The wider view on this shot was intended for various reasons. It emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. The wider look also allows to see two trees that are relevant to the environment of the chamois in winter because close to them there is less snow on the ground and the chamois can more easily dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. Finally the wider shots also allows to showcase the swiss alps in the background beautifully illuminated by sunset light to complete the scene. If the image would have been cropped/framed to only include the chamois, it would have in my opinion a lot less educational value because we would be missing all these interesting elements about it's habitat. Moreover the wider shots allows to showcase the beautiful sunset colors which is a rare thing to capture with wildlife photography. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are comparing a domestic animal like a sheep that can extremely easily be approached + an animal that can also easily be approached by humans (vicuna) to a chamois, a wild animal that can't be approached like that. Both pictures you linked were taken at 21mm and 48mm at a close distance (=no bokeh), which is usually not something that can be done with this animal where you have to use a telephoto lense like the 600mm that I used (=inevitable bokeh). To photograph the animal I had to crawl on the snow and hide my body behind a natural bump on the ground with only my head, camera and hands appearing to the chamois, in order to not disturb him and not feel threatening to him or he probably would have fled. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a bunch of photos of Rupicapra rupicapra on Commons and Wikipedia. So it doesn't seem so difficult to approach them.
Backgrounds in focus don't necessary "steal attention from the main subject", at least not in the two examples shown above.
The problem with long focal lengths is they focus on small things. Everything around gets blurry. So the compromise "subject + around" is difficult. Since it quickly gives an insignifiant small subject lost in a big uninteresting space. I think that's what Kallerna says when writing the photo is mainly just "background". Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look the images from your link you will notice that they have been all taken from very far or with a telephoto lense, and/or went into a big crop, which proves my point that they are not as easily approachable as a domestic sheep or a vicuna. The group of chamois that I saw was a bit nervous and I have no doubt they would very likely have fled if I would be standing up and not lying on the ground with just my head visible. Moreover, for the sheep image you link I personally have my attention very much directed to the houses on the right because they are in clear focus and I personally don't like animal photography with human constructed elements but that's just my personal taste. Finally I don't think that the subject gets lost in a big uninteresting space for this photo because as said above it emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proportionally, it's a huge background with small animal. And the background itself is... white, with almost nothing apart from distracting blurry elements -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's more rare to see such composition on FPC because here people usually only do mugshots of wild animals but there still are other images in the same situation as linked above : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. I personally think that this composition brings value to the image because it allows to have a view of the environment and also because it tells a story that a narrow croped/frame picture would not be able to tell. Also I personally think that the background would be distracting if it was in focus and that the bokeh beautifully separates the subject from the background while still beeing possible to understand the context. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Environment are greats when they fit. Have a quick glance at this picture. What do you see? Two dark forms. One is okay, and one is a strange bush, like saying "hello, I'm here but just a big unclear shape. Try to find something else in this large, large frame" -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only dark form I see is the chamois and I think the background tree brings welcoming nice warm colors to a mostly cold snow background giving a nice mix of warm and cold to the image. The background tree also echoes the foreground tree giving the viewer a sense of its shape. It also is relevant to the chamois environment because the herd went where the trees were for more easily accessible grass. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you see at unzoomed size that it's a tree I don't see why you would want to zoom at it to see if it's still a tree. Bokeh areas is not meant to be zoomed at since it's not the main subject. You will have the same result when zooming in bokeh areas of these pictures : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it is a normal thing. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... Is it not the third time now these 5 links appear on this page? Lol :-) Honestly the big brown mass was not so obvious as a tree at first sight. You were there, but not the observers. Problem is that these elements you don't see the necessity to see in large size actually dominate -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I repost them for convenience to have clearer view of what is beeing refered to. But I agree that the discussion has become cyclical and that everything was already said (many times). I think it's still quite visible that it's a tree with all the branches and some of them with snow. Yes the domination is actually precisely the point of this composition: to have a small baby chamois depicted in a vast open environment with difficultly accessible grass as everything on the ground is deeply snow covered, except close to the trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Nice light but 1) the feet are hidden, 2) the big blurry brown mass is distracting, and 3) the snowy branch is out of focus. Cluttered composition in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review. I don't think the feet beeing hidden is a problem for ungulates and we have multiple FP in that situation (in addition to the image of the domesetic sheep you sent yourself above) : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc. Moreover, as explained above, to photograph the animal I had to crawl up a a natural bump in the snow to only have my head, hands and camera appearing to the animal so that it would not feel threatened by me. If I had stood up to have the chamois feet in the image, not only would the chamois have probably fled, but also the composition would have been extremely boring because you would not have the swiss alps in the background and just a boring high-angle shot with just ground visible in the background (click here for an illustration). As for the two trees you mention, they are relevant to the chamois environment. In my opinion the image would have been much more cluttered if they were in focus (which anyway can not be the case at 600mm) and they would also be very distracting in my opinion because they would steal the attention from the chamois. So I still think that having them blured not only creates a good classical foreground, midleground, background photography which gives a 3 dimensional sense to the image but also allow to keep the attention on the main subject. Also, as already said, the foreground tree creates a perfect leading line to the subject just as many others that are present in the image. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would, would, would... if, if, if :-) So to be short, it's sometimes just a question of luck. The environment here was not so cooperative in my personal opinion, but your subjective taste is of course totally acceptable -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing how the chamois were a bit nervous, I have almost no doubt they would have fled if I stood up (but we can never be 100% certain of course). Also, I have been a dozen times to this place and I have no doubt that I was extremely lucky to cumulate multiple favorable factors for this image : 1) there is only a few days/weeks every year that you can have snow there as it is not very high in altitude and also because winters are becoming warmer and warmer lately ; 2) chamois are not often seen there (most of the time it’s just ibexes that are seen) ; 3) the picture was taken with beautiful sunset colors which is rare and lucky for wildlife photography because usually the wild animals will not be placed in a good place or you will face challenging light conditions with for example contre-jour and for this shot I was lucky that the baby chamois was well placed to not have contre-jour, it was also lucky that the chamois was not in a shadow area that would not be benefiting from the sunset colors and it was also lucky that the chamois lifted its head in a way that it could be beautifully illuminated by the soft sunsets light ; 4) the combination of all of the previous elements is extremely lucky because it is way more likely to see the chamois without snow or with no beautiful sunset colors ; 5) it was very interesting to witness how the chamois adapted to this unusual situation for them (snow covering their food and having to go to places with less snow to dig to reach the grass) ; 6) having that small baby chamois far enough from the rest of the herd (especially form the mother) was extremely lucky and allowed to isolate the subject in this big snowy fairy tail environment ; 7) 98% of the time the chamois was just eating/digging the ground with head down and it was only during a very small few seconds that it had its head up like that to monitor me (even though I just had my head, hands and camera visible for him in order to not appear threatening)(but most of the time it was the rest of the herd that kept monitoring me) ; 8) most of the time with wildlife animal you are not able to place yourself to have the elements you want in the background. For this shot I was extremely lucky to be able to have the Swiss alps in the background. 9) the chamois was really perfectly placed with all these leading lines pointing to him, which is uncommon for wildlife photography. With all these elements I honestly personally think this image is of FP level. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You see some qualities but minimize the drawbacks :-) 1) animal partially hidden at the bottom (in addition to being small in the environment), 2) background totally unclear, out of focus (not recognizable mountains) 3) unaesthetic branch. Question of visual balance -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because I honestly personally don't think they are drawbacks (and even if they were, all of the qualities of the image would outweigh them in my opinion) : 1) I don't think having feet partially hidden is a problem for ungulates (see the 15 links above) and is actually even more normal when walking on snow ; 2) for me the background is clear : there's a vast environment with only a few trees and a mountain in the background. I don't think it needs to be in focus as it would steal attention from the subject (and as said above would not be possible anyway at 600mm). The background also tells a story and is relevant to the chamois environment ; 3) I personally think the foreground branch is very aesthetic because it is beautifully covered in snow with beautiful delicate sunset colors. I also like the way they create leading lines to the subject. I understand your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and I think everything was said. Best regards and have a nice day, -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I had a wonderful day :-)
It's very clear on the picture that the feet are hidden, not because deep in the snow but because the foreground is higher in level.
I'm happy to hear you had a wonderful day. I understand your view about partially hidden feet and proportion. What I am saying is that not only it's not disturbing for ungulates having feet not visible but that also it is also unavoidable to have that in snow anyway, even if a few inches would have been gained by standing up (at the cost of having the animal flee away and having a way less interesting background). On some of the 15 links mentioned you will even have much greater portion not visible. I personally prefer this picture than these two FP chamois pictures I made : image n°1 and image n°2 because on these two links it's just a chamois "mugshot" and there's not much context to it. This actual image is way more special in my opinion because of the fact that it was shot in a snow environment, moreover with beautiful sunset lights, and that this picture is even is able to give a context of the chamois' environment and behavior in winter in that place. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Unavoidable"? Type "chamois in snow" on Google and you'll see almost all the pictures display the feet (example).
The number of extraordinary buildings that failed at FPC because something distracting was ruining the composition... Same case here in my view. On the surface, the animal represents maybe 3 or 4 %. The rest is like empty on a "symbolic" level. Content matters -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unavoidable on deep snow, not on undeep snow that was already flatened by walking on it. I personaly don't think the trees are distracting and that on the opposite they bring value to the composition has it's part of it's environment and explains why the chamois would prefer to be close to it. This picture has just as much "animal surface" than these ones for example : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and it is a perfectly normal thing for depicting animals in their environment. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@El Golli Mohamed with your comment saying "it's really easy for those who have never practiced wildlife photography to criticize", you certainly ignore that the best art critics in this world aren't artists themselves. They just know what they're talking about, with enough background and knowledge. Moreover, this platform is open to everyone. No diploma requested to participate. That's also valid for all the voters who support birds or very cute cats. Similarly you can also meet people having strong convictions on architecture photography without knowing anything about the subject nor the difficulty. Please stay focus on the topic, if you have something interesting to share about the content, just let us know -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you say is not contradictory to what I said. I didn't say that it was forbidden to criticize a style of photography that you have never practiced, but that it was too easy to do so. After that, saying that you know a subject very well without ever having practiced it doesn't really convince me. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be upset or frustrated because I opposed a picture of your birds and my vote suddenly put an end to the enthusiastic series of supports. Hopefully because something true was said.
What I'm explaining concerning reviews: First, great art critics are usually not artists. Which means they don't practice at all. No painting in their hands. Only knowledge, feelings, sensibility. And they usually know what they're talking about. Same happens when you enjoy a music or a movie, you don't need to be musician nor director or comedian, you just need to master a field that is about giving fair appreciations. And criticizing an art work is never "too easy" for these professionals. Secondly, it's far more easy to cast an empty vote with nothing written, or with nothing constructive, than expressing a subjective opinion, finding the words, detailing a reasoning, and if necessary courageously going against the consensus. I appreciate Giles's works in general, but I'm sorry not all the FPCs are always promoted. And I think all the authors (myself included) often lack objectivity. That's why various points of view are necessary -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's your way of participating. But read also the guidelines. COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". Greetings -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's really easy for those who have never practiced wildlife photography to criticize. It's much more complicated than photographing a building. El Golli Mohamed19:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support As a wildlife photographer, I understand the challenges that often arise when capturing images in cold climates and at high altitudes. I have gone out to photograph in temperatures of -20°C to -30°C, which is common in this region of Quebec. I have also been at 5,000 meters above sea level in the Andes (reaching there on foot without a cable car). In such conditions, it's not just tough on the stomach; I remember that taking three steps felt like running an entire stadium, the heart beats very fast, the hands feel like they are burning despite special gloves, and the stomach feels like you have diarrhea all the time. I agree that an image should speak for itself, but we must consider the circumstances: a cold and high place is very different from a photo of farm animals. I respect others' opinions, but I want to support this photo for its merit and difficulty. --Wilfredor (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent shot. I would have cropped it a bit on the left, given that there's a lot of weight on the right. That being said, I particularly like that the image shows the habitat. The bokeh of the lens is nice and in general there's nothing wrong with out-of-focus elements in an image. Thanks for uploading so many top-notch photos here, Giles! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Most interesting part, the head is out of focus. The focus is on the feathers of the back, behind. And with this low resolution, only 2,159 × 2,879 pixels, it is a real quality issue -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The crest of the grebe is the most interesting part and it is in focus. You can't shoot at F11 in wildlife photography to have the tip of the beak in focus for such a situation. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 17:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The beak is just about okay, but not the crest above, nor the eyes, nor even the crest around the neck. The focus is really further away, probably because the bird was moving forward. Or because the focus point was not adequately targeted -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A striking snapshot, but unfortunately the technical quality is inadequate. I wonder why the image received QI status when head and eyes are not in focus. -- Radomianin (talk) 09:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for asking, Charles. As for dissenting votes, I prefer to use them very thoughtfully. If possible, I try to convey my opinion with a comment or, if in doubt, a neutral vote. However, if it's necessary to prevent a promotion in the interest of common consensus, I do so - as in this example. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. But your policy, whilst it avoids creating enemies, skews nominations in favour of promotion. I have had to give up opposing nominations except in exceptional circumstances (e.g. ethics), so I have also stopped supporting excellent nominations which is a shame. The general enmity and frequent hostility from other users made my life too stressful, so I can see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, it is not possible to hide the identity of voters. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for your thoughts, Charles. I think a detailed, reasoned dissenting vote is very valuable to be constructive for the image and the photographer. However, a constructive comment can be equally helpful in not scaring off new talent. An offer of help can also rescue a nomination. Because FPC thrives on diversity, which is not always the case. I have also learned a lot on this forum over the years, and yet I can't get enough of participating regularly and enjoying the contributions of fellow users. Speaking only for myself, it may not always be easy, but as in real life, learning from mistakes strengthens your skills and ultimately your level of confidence. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 10:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Charles is trying to do everything to prevent my photos from being promoted. We had an old argument together and he is doing this purely out of revenge. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 11:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for your comment, El Golli Mohamed. I didn't know about that, and I'm sorry that there were differences. If I may express my humble opinion in general, perhaps past misunderstandings should be settled in respectful agreement in order to look forward to the future unencumbered. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Charlesjsharp and El Golli Mohamed: Thank you for letting me know, Charles. I was not aware of the incident, but I found the relevant entry. Please allow me to share my opinion as an outsider: It is not okay to insult, El Golli Mohamed. It is also not okay to feel provoked or to provoke. We should always remember the principle of assuming good intentions. If someone feels provoked, it might be a good idea to wait a bit before responding calmly. I think it would be appropriate for you to settle your differences, perhaps with an apology. What is the point of remembering past incidents? I'm sure you're both friendly and outgoing people in real life, so you should look to the future and not lose focus on the main goal of our presence here: Working together to build a valuable media library for reusers. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I assume it's about this nomination. You withdrew the nomination two days after it was created. I think this was a bit hasty. Please don't be discouraged by comments and be patient. With some nominations, reviewers are undecided at first and decide to review the image later. Your assumption, mentioned on the nomination page, that there is a lobby that does not want to judge the photo is not correct, in my opinion. You may want to consider reversing your withdrawal to allow the nomination to run its course. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay, I already nominated another photo. I didn't say I was surrounded by a lobby, I said there was a lobby (so a minority, two or three) that discourages most of the participants here. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the information. Yes, you're right - you wrote "It seems like there is a lobby around here". I apologize for the misquote, I have corrected it. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose It's a great shot that you got at the right moment. But unfortunately, the head and eyes are out of focus, probably because the bird swam toward you. Even post-processing would not be able to fix this problem. Normally, the wow factor takes precedence over technical quality, but in my humble opinion, the lack of focus on the most important part of the body is a criterion against promotion. I'm sorry about that. -- Radomianin (talk) 19:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The ferruginous crest of the grebe is the most interesting part of the bird and it is in focus. You can't shoot at F11 in wildlife photography to have all the depth of field from the tip of the beak till the crest in focus for such a situation. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that it is very challenging to create such ambitious images. However, as I see it, the focus in your photo is mainly on the flight feathers, as even the impressive crest is not completely in focus. I suspect that the bird's movement towards you was faster than the autofocus. I think if the crest had been sharper, the eyes and head would also have been more in focus than they are now. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it's not easy to camouflage yourself and wait for the bird to come towards you with this raised crest look without it seeing you. Afterwards you have to react quickly and the autofocus in this kind of light does not allow you to point the eye quickly enough. Either you wait for the autofocus to catch the eye and you can miss a very nice shot or you give priority to the trigger even if it does not catch the eye perfectly. I have many classic photos of Great Crested Grebe with a clear eye but with this atmosphere this is the only photo. Anyone who has ever practice wildlife photography knows what I'm talking about. An art critic will focus on the sharp eye. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 22:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point of view. Thank you for your detailed explanations. The work of wildlife photographers is something that I have a great deal of respect for. -- Radomianin (talk) 07:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your advice, the shooting conditions were particularly difficult, this statue of sleeping Buddha is located on the uppermost terrace. I couldn't figure out how to fix this problem. If the image is not OK for FP, I will quickly remove it from the proposals made Best regards. --Pierre André (talk)15:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Composition is fine but the head is out of focus. Shallow depth of field. And at ISO 2500, the quality is on the low level. A tripod would have helped -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Info A composite image of a miniature poodle galloping, showing full contraction followed by full extension. The two images were shot 0.189 sec apart. The poodle is 14 inches (36 cm) high at the shoulder and head+body length is 23 inches (58 cm). Created by Tagooty - uploaded by Tagooty - nominated by Tagooty -- Tagooty (talk) 04:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@Milseburg What's so "strange" and "artificial" about this? Are the eclipse patterns symmetrical? Are the buildings too bright for you? Your comment is too vague for me to see the problems. -- WildMouse76 (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Milseburg The image is a composite, which means that it went through some tweaking to achieve the desired effect. By my looks, the image must have been captured during totality, then the eclipse phases were added to some parts of the sky based on the location during that phase. I'm not a photography expert, so if anyone can explain it better and more accurately than me, please do. WildMouse76 (talk) 15:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]