Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives November 06 2016

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Consensual review

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File:16-09-17-WikiLovesCocktails-Zutaten-Img0142.jpg

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  • Nomination Zitronen --Ralf Roletschek 01:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality.--Famberhorst 06:33, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The photo is absolutely QI quality, but the description and categories need to reflect the photo's subject. -- Ikan Kekek 07:45, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  • And please fix the missing template. --XRay 16:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment Would be nice if the cut glass bowl was also mentioned. W.carter 10:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support OK. I wish the title was more accurate, though. A user searching for "lemons" won't necessarily find this.--Peulle 19:12, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support fixed now. W.carter 20:57, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support -- Ikan Kekek 02:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support --Haeferl 03:51, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Hubertl 09:31, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:16-09-17-WikiLovesCocktails-Zutaten-Img0158.jpg

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  • Nomination Orangen --Ralf Roletschek 01:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality.--Agnes Monkelbaan 05:44, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The photo is probably a QI (one orange seems to have a halo, but I'm guessing that's another orange behind it), but the description and categories need to reflect the photo's subject. -- Ikan Kekek 07:47, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment Would be nice if the cut glass bowl was also mentioned. W.carter 10:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support fixed now. W.carter 20:57, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support -- Ikan Kekek 01:59, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support --Haeferl 03:53, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Hubertl 09:32, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:Top_of_Skanska_high-rise_at_Lilla_Bommen.jpg

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* Sharpness could be somewhat better, but is acceptable. --Smial 10:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Question Cart, can you denoise the sky, please? Especially jarring, if seen, is a line in the sky a bit to the right of the upper left corner, and there is banding in some places. -- Ikan Kekek 05:27, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry but with so much tweaking of a photo, it gets a little degraded at each step so the banding will only get worse if I denoise it further. Even if a sky looks totally blue, there are so many nuances of the blue and that is not easy to handle. Instead of trying to save something in a bad way, I'll withdraw. The pic is not worth it and I have several other versions of it that are easier to start over with. Thanks for your time and patience. :) W.carter 08:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Removed all votes after rework. Now  Neutral There are now artifacts in the sky. --Smial 09:02, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Hubertl 09:33, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pollia undosa 01.JPG

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  • Nomination Shell of a Waved Goblet, Pollia undosa --Llez 22:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Jacek Halicki 22:55, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I think this file is worth a discussion. Whites look blown out in places, and I think the sharpness is probably improvable. -- Ikan Kekek 04:13, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment - I will not necessarily oppose this nomination, in the end. My remark is more in the nature of a review, but opposition was necessary to get to a discussion. -- Ikan Kekek 07:50, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support Slightly noisy in places, but OK considering the high resolution. The whites would look wrong if darkened, I think. --Peulle 08:17, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support This is a QI for me.--Ermell 16:51, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Hubertl 09:34, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:16-09-17-WikiLovesCocktails-Flaschen-Img0035.jpg

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  • Nomination Zitronensirup --Ralf Roletschek 02:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Vengolis 03:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The photo is QI but even if you have an accurate description of what's in the photo here at QIC, there is none of that on the file's page or in the categories. Please fix that. --W.carter 14:01, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I agree with cart. Add the relevant categories and give a good file description, and then we can vote to promote this picture, as the quality is fine for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 06:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per others. The image is fine so I'll vote to support once the title, category and description are amended.--Peulle 08:42, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support And so it is done. (Image title could still be something more accurate, though, like "Lemon cyrup" or something).--Peulle 07:54, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support fixed W.carter 09:19, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support -- Ikan Kekek 09:42, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Hubertl 09:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:16-09-17-WikiLovesCocktails-Drink-Img0252_1.jpg

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  • Nomination Highball Glas --Ralf Roletschek 02:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Yum! --King of Hearts 03:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The photo is QI but even if you have an accurate description of what's in the photo here at QIC, there is none of that on the file's page or in the categories. Please fix that. --W.carter 14:01, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I agree with cart. Add the relevant categories and give a good file description, and then we can vote to promote this picture, as the quality is fine for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 06:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per others. The image is fine so I'll vote to support once the title, category and description are amended. Please keep in mind that Commons need these things to be useful, otherwise people can't properly search for images.--Peulle 08:44, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support It's ✓ Done. One of the categories was a red link, I fixed it for you.--Peulle 08:00, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support fixed --W.carter 09:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support -- Ikan Kekek 09:43, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Hubertl 09:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:16-09-17-WikiLovesCocktails-Flaschen-Img0184.jpg

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  • Nomination Cocktailbitter --Ralf Roletschek 02:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn
  •  Support Good quality. --King of Hearts 03:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose The photo is QI but even if you have an accurate description of what's in the photo here at QIC, there is none of that on the file's page or in the categories. Please fix that. --W.carter 14:01, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I agree with cart. Add the relevant categories and give a good file description, and then we can vote to promote this picture, as the quality is adequate for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 06:28, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per others. The image is fine so I'll vote to support once the title, category and description are amended. Please keep in mind that Commons need these things to be useful, otherwise people can't properly search for images.--Peulle 08:45, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Ich finde keine sinnvollen Kategorien. Ich bin seit über 10 Jahren bei Commons, das Kategorienchaos ist für mich nicht nutzbar und für Leser wohl ebensowenig, wenn man nicht gut Enlisch kann. Leser finden Bilder über Wikipediaartikel. Die Beschreibung war ungenügend, das ist richtig. Das Bild ist im deutschen Artikel "Cocktailbitter". Den gibt es aber laut Interwiki nirgendwo anders. Google Translate liefert mir "Cocktail Bitter", so einen Artikel gibts auf .en nicht. So eine Kategorie gibts auch nicht auf Commons. Mir ist schon klar, daß mir jetzt irgendwer hier gleich irgendwelche Kategorien nennen wird, die passen. Aber ich kann nur zwei rote einfügen, den Hersteller und eben das genannte Cocktail Bitter. Wie gesagt, die Beschreibung, da habe ich versagt, das habe ich nachgebessert. Aber bei den Kategorien bin ich machtlos. Bitte bedenkt, daß es auch Menschen gibt, die kein Englisch können und denen sich das Kategoriensystem nicht erschließt.
    (Google Translate:) I can not find any meaningful categories. I've been at Commons for over 10 years, the classchaos is not for me and for readers probably just as well, if one can not well Enlish can. Readers can find pictures on Wikipedia articles. The description was inadequate, that's right. The picture is in the German article "Cocktailbitter". However, according to Interwiki, there is nowhere else. Google Translate gives me "Cocktail Bitter", so an article is not. So a category is also not on Commons. It is clear to me that now somebody here will call some categories that fit. But I can only insert two red, the manufacturer and just the mentioned cocktail bitters. As I said, the description, I have failed, I have improved. But in the categories I am powerless. Please bear in mind that there are also people who can not speak English and who are not familiar with the category system.
  • The correct category is Category:Bitters. However, Ralf makes an important point. Why aren't there translations of every category name into many different languages? -- Ikan Kekek 02:46, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support OK now. It is indeed a bit problematic that the Commons categories don't easily translate. It's not something we here can solve easily either; I think we must either create categories that are missing (if they are missing), or we as a community can try to help each other by finding appropriate categories. If an image is good enough, I wouldn't mind spending some time helping with that.--Peulle 08:13, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support since fixed. I agree with Peulle that the non-translated cats is a problem, but if other users are to help with the categories, the decription must be filled in properly in any language. I've helped fix up files in languages I've never even heard of with online translators just because they at least had a good description. W.carter 09:11, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Ralf Roletschek: (Google Translate) Ich stimme mit Peulle, dass die nicht übersetzten Kategorien ein Problem ist, aber wenn andere Benutzer sind, um mit den Kategorien zu helfen, muss die Decription in jeder Sprache richtig gefüllt werden. Ich habe geholfen, reparieren Dateien in Sprachen, die ich noch nie gehört habe mit Online-Übersetzer, nur weil sie zumindest eine gute Beschreibung hatte. W.carter 09:15, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Ja, und bitte auch die Titeln, die sollten auch ein bisschen mehr präzise sein. :) --Peulle 19:34, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Changing file names should be done very sensible, as many, if not most photographers include some kind of personal system. This system should not be destroyed when renaming. Adding further information is in most cases ok. -- Smial 20:02, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      •  Comment Commons' sorting system is more important than photographers' sorting system, IMO. Any anyway, the QI Guidelines say that an image needs to have a meaningful title.--Peulle 22:03, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        •  Comment I agree to "needs to have a meaningful title", but where is the "commons sorting system" regarding file names? Categories have a system, though it is widely inconsistent and confusing, but, yes, it is kind of system. But file names? --Smial 08:54, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
          •  Comment Perhaps "sorting system" is the wrong word for it, but what I mean is that you should be able to search for something and easily find it. Using a personal indexing system, such as the one above with numbers and dates, isn't really what Commons needs. It's good for the photographer to find it on his harddrive, but no good for finding it on Commons. What is needed is something like "Bottles of De Kuyper bitter", not "16-09-17-WikiLovesCocktails-Flaschen-Img0184.jpg". I think people trying to find "bottles of bitter" or even "De Kuyper bitter" on Commons will have problems finding this one. In fact, I think I will nominate these images for file name changes.--Peulle 12:02, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination with such a filename it isn't longer my Photo. --Ralf Roleček 15:37, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment I understand and sympathize. Commons, however, is not a photographer's personal image library. Photos should have meaningful titles or their role in the Commons library is all but meaningless since people cannot find them.--Peulle 17:25, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Most people who look for photos in commons have very little or no knowledge about the category system. They simply enter a description of what they are looking for in the searchbox and select from the results. Those results get displayed based in file name and not category, second is also the text in the description, so correct file names a vital for this collection of pics to work. I also agree with what Peulle say above. The moment you finish the upload and hit "Save" you have legally handed over everything about your pics to the Wikimedia community, it sais so right above the button. --W.carter 17:53, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Hubertl 09:36, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Baguette_de_pain,_WikiCheese_Lausanne.jpg

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  • Nomination Bread loaf, WikiCheese Lausanne. --Yann 14:40, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality.--Famberhorst 16:29, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Sharpness below standards for a studio shot, and messed up background. --Smial 12:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Smial. It's arguable, but I come down on Smial's side. -- Ikan Kekek 06:23, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose as others. Sorry. --Hubertl 14:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Hubertl 09:37, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:Interior of Samsung Wooble.jpg

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  • Nomination Interior washing drum of Samsung Wobble 6.2 Kg washing machine --Krishna Chaitanya Velaga 03:21, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Nice idea. Good quality. --Johann Jaritz 03:32, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose There are JPEG artefacts all over the picture --A.Savin 03:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
    •  Question - I don't know how to recognize JPG artifacts per se. Is it the distortion on the sides of the washer that you're referring to, or is there something else to look for? -- Ikan Kekek 06:39, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
      •  Comment There are no jpg artifacts. But there is lots of noise, and unfortunate noise reduction, combined with helpless attemps to re-sharpen, which alltogether can easily be confused with jpg artifacts. -- Smial 11:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Noise, lighting, reflections. --Smial 11:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose No area of the image has acceptable quality: Very poor quality IMO--Lmbuga 16:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose - Regretfully, I will oppose, too. I'm troubled by the quality of the depiction of the sides. I really like this compositional idea, though, and I encourage you to take more photos of it. -- Ikan Kekek 06:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Hubertl 09:38, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

File:Paris - Jardin des Tuileries - Pavillon de Marsan - PA00085992 - 002.jpg

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  • Nomination Louvre Museum, Paris, France (by Thesupermat) --Paris 16 15:45, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose The buildings looks fine but the sky is too noisy IMHO Poco a poco 16:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Ermell 19:29, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Poco --A.Savin 10:39, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Way too noisy. To me, this is nowhere close to a QI, in this condition. -- Ikan Kekek 09:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak  Support Noise is on the high side in the sky, but acceptable. Better slight noise than blur. --Smial 16:07, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support as Smial. --Ralf Roletschek 16:09, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment - Please note that Poco a poco was not shown as opposing, but unless he changed his mind, he clearly did, as this would have been a Decline, except for Ermell's demurral. I have taken the liberty of inserting the Oppose template and added his opposing vote to the total below. -- Ikan Kekek 06:50, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
    That's fine, Ikan, it was not an oppose as I was expecting the author to fix it in order to get it promoted. As it looks that he didn't and will not an oppose is right now how I see it Poco a poco 08:45, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Too much noise in the sky. Alvesgaspar 19:17, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support Very nice detail level of building. In a realistic viewing distance seeing the image in its entirety or in print I would claim the noise in the sky would not be noticeable. -- Slaunger 20:08, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Noise is very visible even at preview size. @Paris 16: I'd be glad to support if fixed. By the way, I must say the sharpness is very impressive for f/4.5. --King of Hearts 00:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment Sorry, but I don't known how to fix it. Maybe someone help me.--Paris 16 09:50, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
@Paris 16: This is rather something for the author. RAW data needs better development --A.Savin 16:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Paris 16: When you sharpen your pictures, do you sharpen them everywhere equally or do you use a sharpening mask (which would apply little or no sharpening to the sky and more to the building)? Poco a poco 08:34, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support QI for me. Too much contrast or clarity, but clear QI picture IMO--Lmbuga 16:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
  •  Oppose as others --Hubertl 02:02, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 6 oppose → Declined   --Hubertl 09:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)