Category talk:Panoramic photographs

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Category:Panoramic photographs

Category:Stitched images has sub-category Category:Panoramic photographs, which has subcategory Category:Panoramic photographs by technology‎, which has subcategory Category:Stitched images‎. Are all panoramic photographs stitched phographs? Are all stitched images panoramic photographs? I think the answer to both of these is no, but I could be wrong... Themightyquill (talk) 22:00, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

There are panoramic photographs that are not stitched: I used to have a camera that took panoramic photos. They can also be created by cropping. I am less familiar with stitched photos, but it seems possible that a stitched photo might not have the ratio to be considered panoramic. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:59, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Hmmm... I think most digital cameras that take panoramic photos actually are effectively stitch together various images, but I take your point. I'm not sure cropping an image of a lanscape makes it a panorama. en:Panoramic photography: While there is no formal division between "wide-angle" and "panoramic" photography, "wide-angle" normally refers to a type of lens, but using this lens type does not necessarily make an image a panorama. An image made with an ultra wide-angle fisheye lens covering the normal film frame of 1:1.33 is not automatically considered to be a panorama. An image showing a field of view approximating, or greater than, that of the human eye – about 160° by 75° – may be termed panoramic. This generally means it has an aspect ratio of 2:1 or larger, the image being at least twice as wide as it is high. The resulting images take the form of a wide strip. Some panoramic images have aspect ratios of 4:1 and sometimes 10:1, covering fields of view of up to 360 degrees. Both the aspect ratio and coverage of field are important factors in defining a true panoramic image. i.e. wide angle of view + wide aspect ratio = panorama.

That said, even if we use that definition, I'm not sure uploaders will stick to it. Probably a lost cause. But the ultimate point for the sake of this discussion is that there's no inherent link between Panoramic photos and stiched images. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:30, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Difficult. I'd made photographs stitched from 2 or 3 images and put these images to "Panoramic ...". There is always someone who removes these Categories. There are special cameras for panoramics, some people think panoramics are much wider than height. IMO a lot of panoramics are stitched images and vice versa, but there are still panoramics which are not stitched and stitched images which are not panoramics. --XRay ^talk 10:38, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Keep. Reasons follow:

1. Photo panoramas (for brevity) are a subcategory of panoramas, which includes painted panormas. Commons:Categories#Modularity_principle says "A category can have more parent categories." and that would seem to be the case with this page. We aren't going to get rid of the painted panorama category and so the discussion is whether or not photo panoramas should be in a subcategory separate from painted panoramas -- I believe they should be.
2. I would argue that if one category needed to be deleted that it should be the stitched category (although it would be fine to keep both in my opinion) because it seems to me that:
   1. It's easier to judge a result than a process unless the process is listed. A panorama is a result while stitching is a process. It's easy to look at a picture and decide that it's a panorama but there are several pictures in the stitched category that I would argue are difficult to know that they were stitched (and don't say anything about that in their description) except that because they are panoramas it's obvious that they must have been stitched. Thus, if one category were to be deleted, it should be the stitched category.
   2. I would argue that stitched is a less-well known category and if one category needed to be deleted that it should be the less-well known one to help visitors find what they're looking for. However, I think it's fine to keep them both but I would only put a picture in the stitched category if it said in the description somewhere that yes it was stitched.

So keep because panoramas are a larger panoramic category including painted panoramas. Also, stitched is a process and it's difficult to know that a process was used unless it's mentioned (which it isn't in many of the photos in that category), and it's a less well-known term. Banaticus (talk) 21:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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I think the overall consensus is that not all stiched images are panoramics, and that not all panoramics are stitched images. So I've created Category:Stiched panoramic photographs as a subcategory of Category:Stitched images and Category:Panoramic photographs. Hopefully that works for everyone. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:47, 13 August 2020 (UTC)