Comment I would say it is difficult to see that it is a center of oyster farming, because we don't see the usual racks, bags, or cages where oysters are cultivated (example). --Myrabella (talk) 22:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Info The oysters are cultivated in the center of the Etang de Leucate (beginning behind the bridge in the background). "Grau de Leucate" is a connection between the Etang and the Mediterranean. Here the oysters are landed and sold by the oyster farmers. The official name of this site is "Centre Concylicole". Therefore I chose this as scope and not "oyster farming" or so.
Comment "Centre conchylicole" means concerning shellfishes , not only oysters (Centre ostréicole). Furthermore, what illustrates Myrabella's example is a "parc à huîtres", that's why I think that Llez's scope is right. I'll wait for competitors, other opinions or infos, but this image can be promouvable as VI IMO.--Jebulon (talk) 23:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I need convincing for criterion III. Nothing on the picture links to shells/shell culure. All I can see is some small boats and some sheds. Lycaon (talk) 12:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I remember "Centre Concylicole" is the official name of the site you see in the picture, and it is a part of the village of Leucate (as Fishermens Wharf is a part of San Francisco). So I chose the Scope "Leucate" with the subscope "Centre Conchylicole" in the same way as "Fishermens Wharf" would be a subscope of "San Francisco". It is a part of the oyster farming in this region, but only a part (therefore not "Oyster Farming" as subscope). The boats are the boats of the oyster farmers. They sell the oysters in the buildings you see on both sides of the canal. I didn't make a set of severeral picturs (showing both sides of the buildings, and the farming in the Etang) for I wanted only show this site, otherwise one should make a set on Oyster and Shellfarming respectively in this region. --Llez (talk) 16:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
SupportNothing on the picture links to shells/shell culure. It is simply false, sorry. Left, one can read a sign "Huîtres-Moules" ("Oysters-Mussels"), which are shells, as I know. One can see, right, another sign "Degustation", which may be linked to the first, IMO. At the end, right, I see a "bag" or "cage", in use for oysters culture. I support.--Jebulon (talk) 00:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Playing the devil's advocate. Say I'm a non European viewer. Is this a good representative for this scope (at review size) or do I need to read up on local French culture to understand it? Is the scope not too narrow? Even if this item deserves a scope, is this view unambiguously illustrating it? Lycaon (talk) 04:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, this picture is a good representative for this scope, and illustrates it unambiguously. Sorry if french signs in a french place are in French, and maybe needs for read up a little on local french culture (not always uninteresting). Does this item deserves a scope, and is this scope not too narrow ? That is the question. The eternal question of "scopes". If one do speak about other things like a species or an identificated person, one may have problems with the scope, and endless discussions. It looks really very easy to oppose all VICs by protestations around the scopes. Another Question (nothing personnal): is "Playing the devil's advocate" assuming good faith in "Commons"? But maybe I am a bit too lenient with other candidates (because of my own lack of quality in my work...) ?--Jebulon (talk) 09:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Note that the French article on Leucate doesn't mention the place—but it doesn't mention either the oyster farming in Leucate, which is a traditional and famous production of the area (see this news/advertisement) in French), so we can consider it's a rather incomplete article. --Myrabella (talk) 18:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
