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 Support Useful & Used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Oppose Agree with QI/FP ratings and like this image of Tryggve (also sadly passed), even better than the one of his brother lion, Snyggve. However, IMHO the nominated scope is also too narrow. Yours is the only image of this particular lion-by-name in the scope link category of 200 male lions. Can you think of a better VI scope?
- The thing is that Tryggve (and Snyggve) is a quite famous lion : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etc. Just like famous persons (like recent VIC nominations) can have a scope for themselves, I think a famous animal like this one should also be able to have it. This lion is indeed quite famous and the scope would allow someone wanting to do a search query to directly find it. In the light of these elements, don't you think the current scope could fit @GRDN711? If not, please tell me what you think of these alternative scope suggestions : "Panthera leo (lion), front view" or "Panthera leo (lion), symmetrical portrait". Thank you in advance for your answer. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 16:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment “Panthera leo (lion), dominant adult male - full frontal view" or similar, comes to mind and there may be others among the 200 images of your scope-link-category that meet this scope criteria. It remains to peer VI judgement if your image is best and most valued. --GRDN711 (talk) 23:31, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your scope suggestion, I edited the scope to use it. Pinging all the voters : Archaeodontosaurus, GRDN711 and Tagooty. Giles Laurent (talk) 12:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Scope changed from Panthera leo (lion), Tryggve portrait to Panthera leo (lion), dominant adult male - full frontal view --Giles Laurent (talk) 12:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Please notify previous voters of this change. Remember: "A support vote that was made before a change of scope is not counted unless it is reconfirmed afterwards; an oppose vote is counted unless it is changed or withdrawn".
- • Weak Support with revised scope as there are several others 1, 2 that are close. I give advantage that this image is of excellent quality and that the view is full frontal with the lion’s eyes locked on the photographer (who could be lunch under the right circumstances…). Showing all of the head and mane is a positive feature. As the image was made in the wild rather than a zoo represents an additional challenge. --GRDN711 (talk) 23:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The scope is ok, however the linked CAT should be CAT:Panthera leo (male) (full front) rather than only the head. It is difficult to say that the nom image is the best of the 672 images in the CAT. Creating a specific sub-CAT may help. From a cursory look at the first 50 images, this image appears to be better as it shows the legs also, while in the nom image the lower part of the front is obscured. As of now, my oppose remains. --Tagooty (talk) 03:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The image you linked was taken at a zoo and I doubt it represents a dominant male as there is no real territory to dominate in a zoo. Giles Laurent (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Procedural points: (1) "A support vote that was made before a change of scope is not counted unless it is reconfirmed afterwards". (2) Per COM:VIP, a nomination can be closed "only if more than 48 hours have passed since the last vote ( Support, Neutral, or Oppose)." Hence, I've changed back to Discuss to allow sufficient time for opinions.
- I think that with this edit, Archaeodontosaurus reconfirmed his support since he counted it in the total. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support No problem --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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