Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Biden Obama.jpg

Image:Biden Obama.jpg, not featured

•  Info Joe Biden, designated VP, with Barack Obama. This is a very fresh shot, taken today and depicting a current news event. But I think the quality is good enough to give it an FPC-shot. Created, uploaded, and nominated by Dschwen (talk)
•  Support -- Dschwen (talk) 04:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Comment -- A question for those who know nothing about american politcs and polititians: who is the candidate for President? -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 13:19, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Barack Obama, the man behind Joe Biden who has his hand on Biden's shoulder. --Dschwen (talk) 13:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Maybe I should explain myself better. I know it is Barack Obama the candidate! But the central and most prominent place in the picture is of Joe Biden. If I knew nothing about them I would readily point to him as the candidate for the presidency. That is why I find this picture a bit misleading. I can imagine many americans, not very found of Obama, making this kind of comment -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 14:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
    • The picture is about Joe Biden, Obama is providing only context here. I'm sure most ameriacans will appreciate the fact that there are already tons of pictures of Obama, and I'm sure this one picture with happens to focus on Biden will not distract from Obama. Geez, have I missed a new law that states that every picture with Obama has to have Obama as the main subject?! --Dschwen (talk) 15:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support - Anyway the picture is very good ;-) -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 16:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support This picture is now history. Great composition, well done! --Specious (talk) 19:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support -- MJJR (talk) 19:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Comment Can you warm up the white balance a bit? Fg2 (talk) 21:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support for historical significance, quality is good as always Ianare (talk) 04:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose Nothing special, and the background behind them is messy. Thierry Caro (talk) 14:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose Nothing special--Sensl (talk) 17:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose --Teme (talk) 18:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

•  Comment please state reason for opposition as a courtesy to the author/uploader. Lycaon (talk) 19:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

• Yeah, it is hard to top the crapping gull... --Dschwen (talk) 18:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support For qualty and EV. Seriously, I wonder what has happened to our rules. Images that do not meet the requirements are supported and images that are really eye-catching and meet the rules are opposed. Muhammad 19:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose As Sensl. --Karelj (talk) 19:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support High technical quality and very notable subject matter Movieevery (talk) 00:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support How early did you show up at the event to be able to take this? --Dori - Talk 01:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  • I stood five hours in the scorching sun (and got a pretty bad sunburn...), people were fainting all over the place. I took over 600 pictures at the event,many of them essentially blind, camera raised up above my head (the 150mm lens makes aiming quite a challenge). On my userpage is a gallery of the best shots (the gallery of the 500+ out-of-focus, headless, torsoless etc. Obamas and Bidens is onkly on my harddisk though :-) ). --Dschwen (talk) 01:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support --Aqwis (talk) 10:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose I have to agree with Sensl this time. If it had been taken a litte more from the front it could have been better --Simonizer (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose, nothing WOW. Канопус Киля (talk) 16:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose - Obama is half hidden.--Avala (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support As "Obama/Biden" this wouldn't work, but as "Biden introduced by Obama" this is perfect. ~ trialsanderrors (talk) 21:39, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose Special, yes, but still I find that the attention is pulled to Obama's face, which is obviously not in focus. For me Biden is an unknown (as yet), so Obama peeping from behind disturbs rather than adds to the picture. Maybe when O. becomes president, you may try to renominate? I may change my mind as my oppose is only 'just'. Lycaon (talk) 21:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose, nothing special. --Kjetil_r 18:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Question how is this nothing special. It is a high quality, free image of the first public appearance of Joe Biden as the running-mate of the first african-american presidential candidate in US history. Sorry, but without any explanation i just cannot take these votes seriously. --Dschwen (talk) 18:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Maybe it is special now because it is the first picture of him at Commons. But we have no timelimited FP status here at wikimedia. So what is in a few weeks or months? Then there are certainly more pictures of him that are very similar. And then the picture isnt very special anymore. If beeing the first is the only thing special about it then for me it is not a FP --Simonizer (talk) 15:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support I finally take a decision. --Tintero (talk) 23:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose I don't get that special feeling I get from most of the people featured pictures. Oroso (talk) 11:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support, the occasion is special and it is a fine photograph. Thanks to Dschwen for uploading such actual gems to the Commons. --AFBorchert (talk) 09:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose It is special, but Barack Obama attracts all attention from Joe Biden. --Base64 (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Enough special for me. --Aktron (talk) 11:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Good picture and for encouraging people posting good free shots of current news. Thanks to Dschwen. --B.navez (talk) 20:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose I agree with Lycaon. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 19:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Mrmariokartguy (talk) 22:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

result: 15 support, 12 oppose, 0 neutral => not featured. Lycaon (talk) 07:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)