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File:Old house typical of the island of Margarita.jpg, featured[edit]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 21 Feb 2013 at 21:19:57 (UTC)
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- Info created and uploaded by The Photographer - nominated by Poco a poco (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Info Typical local old house in San Juan Bautista, Island of Margarita, Venezuela
- Support -- Poco a poco (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Neutral A VERY nice picture with good light, interesting documentary chararacter. But IMHO the young boy spoils the overall composition. --Tuxyso (talk) 21:41, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Well, agree somehow with you and I was aware of it prior to the nomination, but the fact that he looks to the center of the picture also gives to this shot some dynamic, therefore I wouldn't call it "spoiling". Croping or cloning out (hardly possible) is not an option in my opinion. Bottom line: I was fascinated by the lighting, the atmosphere, the place and composition, enough reasons for me to try it, in spite of the child :) Poco a poco (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- you are right with the direction of the view. I should better say: the boy directly with the chair behind him spoils the composition. The boy alone would fit. --Tuxyso (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Well, agree somehow with you and I was aware of it prior to the nomination, but the fact that he looks to the center of the picture also gives to this shot some dynamic, therefore I wouldn't call it "spoiling". Croping or cloning out (hardly possible) is not an option in my opinion. Bottom line: I was fascinated by the lighting, the atmosphere, the place and composition, enough reasons for me to try it, in spite of the child :) Poco a poco (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Looks like a painting. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support That's what FP should be. Yann (talk) 07:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Tomer T (talk) 08:32, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Very nice, the boy doesn't spoil it at all, as Poco said. --Selbymay (talk) 08:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Good social documentary. JKadavoor Jee 11:39, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Per Jkadavoor. --JLPC (talk) 15:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment The Photographer took care of the boy (and chair) Poco a poco (talk) 11:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support With or without boy - a really nice photo --Schnobby (talk) 10:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Support, definitely better without the boy. --NJR_ZA (talk) 10:24, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
SupportNow strong support from me. Good work, The Photographer! --Tuxyso (talk) 12:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)- I prefer the version without boy, but see King's argument. --Tuxyso (talk) 12:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, I spent almost two full days removing the boy XD --The Photographer (talk) 14:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for the boy, but he hasn't totally gone, one could see him in the television and the fridge. Poltergeist hommage ? :-) -- Selbymay (talk) 19:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Info You should not play with that. I do not believe in ghosts or any spirit, however, many people claim that a demon inhabits one of the rooms of the house.Babalawo recently tried to clean the room spiritually. In the 1930s a boy of 17 years committed suicide in that room, a shotgun blast in the stomach pit, the reason, he discovered his girlfriend with another boy kissing. This information tells me my great aunt --The Photographer (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, I spent almost two full days removing the boy XD --The Photographer (talk) 14:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 16:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 21:44, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support -- Arcalino (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose Nice light and a good job with removing the boy. But so little is in focus :-(. Basically only the Xmas tree and the door frame to the right. B.p. 09:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Interesting --Stas1995 (talk) 10:00, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- Question What about a geotag? Did you leave it consciously for preserving privacy of the inhabitants? --Tuxyso (talk) 10:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
- No, I just forget to add the location, thanks --The Photographer (talk) 10:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support --Maire (talk) 12:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support -- Alborzagros (talk) 14:34, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose — Erasing the boy reminds me too much of Stalinist-era erased photos. What was done was not the removal of a minor image imperfection. It was the obliteration of a human being deemed irrelevant or distracting, and in my opinion is beyond the limits of acceptable image manipulation. My vote would have been to support the original image. I absolutely do not support this doctored photo. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 01:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: In light of Stigmatella aurantiaca's comment, I think what should have been done here is have two different versions that people can vote on. In my opinion, anything which does not make the image uncontroversially better (e.g. fixing CA or minor NR), such as changing brightness, cropping, removing "distracting" elements, should not be reuploaded over the original in an FPC. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 10:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Done Thanks --The Photographer (talk) 11:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Oppose-- By removing the boy, you made the video game controller suddenly disappear (see the note on the modified version). The crop also could be better (too much roof IMHO). That's a pitty because I really like this picture and the atmosphere. And I disagree with Stigmatella aurantiaca concerning the acceptable limits of manipulation. What is the difference, ethically speaking, between removing someone from a picture or telling him to get out before taking it, in the case of an artistic picture? Kirua (talk) 13:29, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Done video game controller fixed --The Photographer (talk) 16:59, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Great job! --Kirua (talk)22:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Done video game controller fixed --The Photographer (talk) 16:59, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose That's too much editing for my taste. The problem is not the removal of the boy and the chair but the addition of the floor. --El Grafo (talk) 09:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Alternative (original)[edit]
- Support Original version. Do I need to strike out my Oppose on the modified version? Will this confuse the vote-counting Bot? Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 16:37, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- I created now a section for the alternative. You (as everybody else) can vote in both versions. Poco a poco (talk) 20:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support With or without the boy. I've no hate to humans as many naturalists. But it is too late to present an alt, I afraid. JKadavoor Jee 06:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support Either one is fine with me. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:04, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- Support --El Grafo (talk) 09:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 15 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /A.Savin 12:09, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Interiors
The chosen alternative is: File:Old house typical of the island of Margarita.jpg