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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors/Religious buildings
- Info The Holy Spirit Parish Church is a neo-gothic building in Werder upon Havel, a town in the Potsdam-Mittelmark (Brandenburg). The church is a landmark of the island. This is the first stitched HDR church interior I uploaded to Commons. I hope you like it. All by me -- Code (talk) 09:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support -- Code (talk) 09:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Nice, sharp, good composition. But: IMO too soft.--XRay talk 09:52, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm not convinced about the processing. I think the contrast is too low, increasing the black point or contrast will probably help a lot. I think Xray is completely wrong about it being too soft though. It's razor sharp at 65 megapixels! (the edges are softer but that's normal for wide angle perspective correction). Diliff (talk) 10:05, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done @Diliff: @XRay: Thanks for your comments. I increased the contrast a little bit. Maybe you both meant the same thing? --Code (talk) 10:57, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support IMO it's OK now.--XRay talk 13:10, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- So when you said soft, you really meant low contrast? They usually mean quite different things... but it could be interpreted as 'soft light' I guess? Diliff (talk) 15:48, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support — Julian H.✈ 12:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support Good light, nice colors. --Laitche (talk) 13:23, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Both the quality and the church are very nice, yet I am not really convinced by the crop. It might be personal preference but I usually find the lower foreground of churches really not very appealing and try to put the horizon at roughly the lower third of the image. I realize that this makes nice aspect ratios a bit harder to achieve but gives the image a bit more wow. Also the top crop is a bit unfortunate. --DXR (talk) 14:22, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @DXR: You are absolutely right (Finger in die richtige Wunde gelegt). Next time I will definitely shoot a fourth row at the top. I see that I still have to learn a lot to get where Diliff and you are. However, I can offer this alternative crop. What do you think? --Code (talk) 15:14, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support Better now for me, thanks. And of course there is no shame in not being perfect, just in refusing to learn. --DXR (talk) 19:26, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Are you referring to anyone in particular DXR? ;-) Diliff (talk) 23:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support Agree with DXR. I quickly tried a square crop to get rid of the closest benches and it looked better to me. But the lighting is beautiful, so... - Benh (talk) 16:35, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done Square crop now. I can revert it if you don't like it. --Code (talk) 17:05, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Prefer this crop too - portrait framing often doesn't work that well for church interiors IMO. I find myself wanting to see more of the sides, unless the subject of the image is something naturally tall, like an altar. I still think it's slightly low in contrast but perhaps it's just the diffused light. I'll trust your judgement here. Diliff (talk) 18:38, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Neutral I like the technical result ("Pour un coup d'essai, c'est un coup de maître !"), but I don't find the subject interesting. There is nothing remarkable in this church interior (to me), Sorry.--Jebulon (talk) 23:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Question about variations of colors. I don't think the differences between the "brown right" and the "brown left" are natural, but due to processing. Any idea ?
- You forgot to sign Jebulon. I think the difference in colours between left and right are perfectly natural. It's most likely because the left is lit by sunlight and the right is in shadow. You can see the shadow cast by the seats in the aisle. The HDR tone mapping gives the illusion of there being minimal difference in luminosity between them though, which is part of the criticism I had about the low contrast. Diliff (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I couldn't sign because my tablet decieded suddenly to have a conflict with "Commons", it works now. Thanks for answer, which prevents me definitely against a support. You write that it is "perfectly natural", I don't think so...The dangers of HDR...--Jebulon (talk) 19:22, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- One side is still clearly darker than the other though, so I don't think it's particularly unnatural. What makes HDR tone mapping work is that as long as you look at different areas of a photo individually (for example, the left seating, then the right seating), you perceive that one is darker than the other even when sometimes the measured luminosity does not actually match your perception. It's a similar optical illusion to this as the surrounding luminosity provides the context. Sometimes this illusion breaks down in HDR tone mapped images if there is insufficient contrast, and perhaps for you it does for this image. Diliff (talk) 21:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I couldn't sign because my tablet decieded suddenly to have a conflict with "Commons", it works now. Thanks for answer, which prevents me definitely against a support. You write that it is "perfectly natural", I don't think so...The dangers of HDR...--Jebulon (talk) 19:22, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- You forgot to sign Jebulon. I think the difference in colours between left and right are perfectly natural. It's most likely because the left is lit by sunlight and the right is in shadow. You can see the shadow cast by the seats in the aisle. The HDR tone mapping gives the illusion of there being minimal difference in luminosity between them though, which is part of the criticism I had about the low contrast. Diliff (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Question about variations of colors. I don't think the differences between the "brown right" and the "brown left" are natural, but due to processing. Any idea ?
- Support --Hubertl 23:06, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Christian Ferrer (talk) 10:39, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Pudelek (talk) 12:18, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Tremonist (talk) 14:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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