Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:At Chester Zoo 2023 019 - Komodo Dragon.jpg

File:At Chester Zoo 2023 019 - Komodo Dragon.jpg, featured

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Crop suggestion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmao20 (talk • contribs)

Interesting suggestion but the proposed crop is too tight at the left. I would recommend to leave more space around the reptile -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:24, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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Crop suggestion -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:25, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• Gallery: Commons:Featured_pictures/Animals/Reptiles#Family_:_Varanidae_(Monitor_Lizards_and_Komodo_dragon)
•  Info created by Mike Peel - uploaded by Mike Peel - nominated by Mike Peel -- Mike Peel (talk) 22:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support -- Mike Peel (talk) 22:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment I'll think about this one for a bit before voting, but I think it could benefit from a tighter crop (see image note). Cmao20 (talk) 22:16, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Happy to crop if others agree, but maybe with a bit more space still on the left? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:18, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Zoo image with less than FP composition and technical quality. Charlesjsharp (talk) 22:19, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Cropped version

• Thanks for the feedback above, here's a cropped version for consideration. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Idk if it'll pass because FPC does tend to be quite harsh on zoo images as opposed to images taken 'in the wild' but I think this is FP to me now Cmao20 (talk) 21:25, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support The alternative is definitely an improvement to the composition, thanks for the edit. I think FP's of wild animals in their natural habitat have more authentic value than those of captive ones. However, zoo animals are just as illustrative and can be a valuable addition to articles in certain contexts. Therefore, I consider that well-made photos of this type have a right to be featured. After all, we also have domesticated creatures such as cats and dogs in the FP library. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Zoo image with less than FP composition and technical quality. Charlesjsharp (talk) 22:19, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
  • @Charlesjsharp: Can you be more specific with your composition and technical quality points please, so I can avoid them when taking future photos? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• You are looking down on the animal; I guess that might be the only way in this zoo. The cut branches in the foreground are a distraction and not natural. The animal's surroundings are ordinary; no feeling that it is anywhere but in a zoo. It's not your fault, but the dead tree trunk and huge rock are very non-Komodo Island. The focus is probably on the head but the nose and tail are out of focus; that's partly due to the huge depth of field needed when an animal is in this sort of position relative to the camera. The nose is over-exposed. The choice of camera settings is strange. 1/40 sec has probably introduced motion blur (or camera shake) and the choice of 30mm lens has meant you had to crop. I don't know what spec/make lens you are using but the EOS 90D should not be this low quality at your chosen ISO. I would have expected better definition from my 80D. Charlesjsharp (talk) 22:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Charlesjsharp: Thanks, that's helpful. It was with a Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM lens, under low light conditions, and I didn't have much time to capture this facial expression (see the other photos I've uploaded in this series). I guess you'd have recommended a higher ISO and shorter exposure? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• I've never used Sigma but the reviews are good and F6.3 seems fine. I've experimented with low shutter speeds on monopod/bean bag with my 100mm lens and it doesn't work for me. I used ISO 800 as my ready-to-go ISO on my EOS 80D. But No. 1 hint: Wait for better light! Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:52, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks for the feedback. I generally find ISO 800 to be too noisy, and in circumstances like these no waiting will provide better light. Let's see how consensus turns out. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose I don't mind photos of animals in zoos, as long as they "wow" me and are done in a way that doesn't look like they are made there. Here unfortunately, most of us can recognize the slightly messy environment as typical for a zoo. The top-down perspective and no good light to help the scene are also unfortunate. --Cart (talk) 16:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose Per Cart. — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 12:11, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Taking photos in a zoo may have limitations, you cannot get close to the animal to take a photo. I think the shot is acceptable but my vote is mainly for the unique expression of the animal. --Wilfredor (talk) 11:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Per @Wilfredor. I don't mind you didn't capture the whole zoo vibe, forget about the zoo gate and the cage glass. And I think this is why we also have picture description for every FPC candidate. Natsuikomin (talk) 02:17, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --MZaplotnik^(talk) 06:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support ★ 13:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --Palauenc05 (talk) 22:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 7 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 07:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Animals/Reptiles#Family : Varanidae (Monitor Lizards and Komodo dragon)

The chosen alternative is: File:At Chester Zoo 2023 019 - Komodo Dragon (cropped).jpg